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An Exchange With A Homosexual Teen and A Psychologist
July
27,
2009
The
following is an exchange that I had
online
with
a homosexual eighteen year old and a psychologist.
Teen: How
Do You Feel About Gay Guys Acting Like They're Straight? This dude I met
at orientation is clearly gay. Seriously, I have NO doubt in my mind
that he is. His facebook saws he's interested in women though...and
he's even gotten himself a girlfriend. Yet e... This dude I met at orientation is clearly gay. Seriously,
I have NO doubt in my mind that he is. His facebook says he's
interested in women though...and he's even gotten himself a
girlfriend. Yet everything about him screams gay! How do you feel
about gay guys acting like they're straight?
Me: It is very hypocritical of a homosexual to question a person
that is showing himself to be heterosexual, on if he is actually
homosexual.
I find it very interesting how some, possibly many
homosexuals will get upset with a homosexual who either does not
come right out and fess up to it or who admits to it and then turns
away from it and claims to have changed to heterosexuality.
Is it not the homosexual plea, that a person has a right to
live whatever sexual "preference," he/she wishes to live? Is it not
the homosexual plea, that a person should not be told that he/she is
not really the sexual "preference," he/she claims to
be?
Many people fight urges to live in sin. If a person chooses
to fight the sin of homosexuality, let him. That is his right. Leave
him alone.
You have a right to think homosexuality is not a sin. He has
a right to think it is a sin. You have a right to live that way. He
has a right not to.
Teen: You
act as though your sexual orientation is something you can control.
I am a firm believer that it is not something one can control about
themselves. So when someone I think is a homosexual tries to act
heterosexual, I think it’s just that, an act. Whether its out of
religious conviction, fear, or whatever, its still an act to me. I
think that man has the right to choose not go after other men, but I
don’t agree with the choice. It boggles my mind why you would
continuously try to deceive yourself and others. I understand it,
but through my experiences, it perplexes me why others would do so.
They need to see the light.
If it weren't for religious morality homosexuality
would not be as looked down upon as it currently is. Up until
Christianity, homosexuality wasn't necessarily a bad thing. The
Greeks actually looked favorably upon male-male courtship. Nero, an
emperor of Rome, was married to another man! I think its ridiculous
to look at yourself and see yourself as sinner because of sexual
urges you have absolutely no control
over.
Me: See,
that is just it.
Many people, including myself, believe
homosexuality to be a sin, deriving from the sin that we are all
born in.
People like
myself, also believe that in Christ, we can change and walk away
from sinful behavior. We believe that we are a new creation in
Christ, that we were spiritually born, the day we called on Jesus
Christ in truth, to save us from our sin and the penalty of that
sin.
We believe in and
have experienced fully walking away from sinful behaviors. However,
some things we struggle with in the flesh, still. Our flesh is
often, our greatest struggle. But no matter what, we believe in
walking away from sinful behavior.
We put our Lord, Jesus Christ, ahead of our
own sinful flesh desires. It really comes down to, who a person
chooses to live for. Does a person chose to live for the Lord, Jesus
Christ, or for him/herself?
A born again believer in Christ, chooses to
live for Jesus Christ. And we like our lives that way. You could
say, we were "Born" that way, when we were born again, spiritually
born from above. That which is fleshly, is born of the flesh of man.
That which is spiritual, is born of the Spirit of
God.
Basically, a believer
in Christ, has had two births. And a believer in Christ, has a
choice to walk in the life that came from the first birth (the flesh
birth) or the second birth (the Spiritual birth.)
A believer in Christ is
not happy, walking in the life that came from the first birth, such
seems so foreign and odd to us. We are only truly happy, walking in
the life that came from the second birth, which is all that is
normal to us.
Hope that
helps clear it up.
Psychologist:
I
am finally going to post a comment about this. I just HAVE to point
out to Christians my experience. I have counseled, researched and
known many homosexuals along both my personal and professional path
and let me tell you the scenario I see played out time after
time.
Many homosexuals want to embrace Christianity and
do believe in Jesus/God, etc. But they know the majority of
Christians won't accept them because of their sexuality. Sometimes
they try to hide it and sometimes they try to "change" it. Some will
get married and some will be abstinent ---they will do whatever they
can to resolve this constant, torturous personal
conflict.
But guess what?
Maybe their behavior changes, but for most of them, those urges,
thoughts and desires DON'T. And that personal conflict between the
beliefs they want so much to embrace and this part of themselves
continues.
Eventually
something’s got to give. They've already done everything they can to
change their homosexual thoughts, etc. But they don't change. Guess
which one they have to give up?
Me: Then
it is time that they let go and let Jesus create in them a new
person, in Christ, a person who can change.
That which is not possible for man, is possible in
Christ.
Jesus does the
changing of the heart, in a born again believer.
If a person tries "in the
flesh" to give up any sin, he certainly can and often will fail and
give up.
It is not about a
person trying hard in the flesh to be a Christian. It is about a
born again Christian, walking in the Spirit of God, conquering the
things of the flesh.
It's all
about Jesus.
Debra...
Psychologist: Let
me play devil's advocate here. What if....now just go with me on
this... what if we someday discover that there really is something
internally or physiologically different about individuals who are
homosexual. And I mean the ones who feel that way from a very young
age---even before the "age of accountability" or before they know
why they even have sexual desires or anything about sexuality at
all. And this happens a lot.
What would this mean to Christians who have
shunned or rebuked homosexuals and it has turned them away from God?
Don't we single homosexuals
out because their "sin" is more visible to us? Do we do this to
everybody else who
sins?
Me:
Please
notice that you used the phrase, "Let me play 'devil's' advocate
here." --Something in you knows. You see the truth is written on our
hearts.
Pertaining
to your questions:
If
there were ever to be found in a person a genetic situation that
showed a baby is going to have a tendency at some point in life
towards homosexuality, then there would also be found a genetic
situation that showed a baby is going to have a tendency towards
stealing or murder or other sin.
Such
would not make any sin right or acceptable. It would only go to
further show, the need for Jesus Christ in a person's life, in order
for a person to turn from his/her sin.
You
asked if we single out homosexuals:
We
do and we don't.
While
people who practice some other sexual sinful lifestyles are behind
bars, the sexual sin of homosexuality (alone) does not put a person
in prison, these days.
However,
those of us who oppose homosexuality, for the most part, speak out
more often on the topic of homosexual sin, than other sexual sins.
Speaking for myself, this is because so many homosexuals are
pushing their sexual sin on the whole of society and claiming it not
to be a sin. We don't see other sexual sinful behavior being
promoted in the streets, in the schools, in the work places, on
blogs, etc.
The
topic post that began this exchange is an example of what I mean. It
was put out there, so it was commented on. We will rarely, if ever,
see a post on this site that is asking that a pedophile stop
pretending to want an adult relationship and just go
with his/her desires.
I
suppose if they just kept it in their bedrooms, most of us who are
against homosexuality, would rarely talk about the
topic.
Debra...
Psychologist: That's
a great
response.
Me:
Thank
you...
And thanks for the pleasant
exchange.
:)
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